Michael Lewis takes the most left brain issue and gives it right brain impact. That’s exactly what he does in one of Marianne’s favorite books, The Fifth Risk. The book has been called “a love letter to federal workers” by the Washington Post. In this episode, Michael and Marianne explore why a presidential transition, or lack thereof, is so critically important. The book’s major theme is that “a bungled transition becomes a bungled presidency,” a particularly important issue as Trump continues to withhold vital information from the incoming Biden administration.

Marianne and Michael discuss the more shocking parts of the 2016/17 transition, and why its lessons are so important for us now and going forward. Following the interview, Marianne answers a question from a concerned citizen.

Marianne Williamson is a bestselling author, political activist and spiritual thought leader.

For over three decades Marianne has been a leader in spiritual and religiously progressive circles. She is the author of 14 books, four of which have been #1 New York Times best sellers.